Congrats on being commissioned to write the 33 1/3 book for Hounds of Love! How did you react when you heard the good news? Why was Hounds of Love the album you wanted to write about?
Hey, thank you! I was overjoyed when I found out, because I’ve wanted to write a 33 1/3 for a long time now. I had submitted two unsuccessful proposals before this one. In fact, my last book, Blackstar Theory: The Last Works of David Bowie, began as a failed proposal for a 33 1/3. When I heard the news there was a very excited, quite protracted “!!!” conversation over messenger with my best friend. Just days and days of Kate GIFs.
I knew for this open call that I wanted to write about Kate’s music, the ideas for it have been brewing for years - but I couldn’t decide on which album to focus on. For a while, my heart was set on writing about Aerial (that abandoned pitch is uploaded as a draft on my academia account if anyone’s curious. But in the end, the RUTH (Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) appeared on Netflix’s Stranger Things) moment of 2022 was too good to ignore, and there’s so much to dig into with Hounds: all the bangers on side A; The Ninth Wave is a real gift to write about. I think that intuition was correct in the end. There seems to be a bit of special energy around Hounds of Love at the moment with the re-release coming up, the stirrings of something new with the Fish People rebranding, and the move to The state51 Conspiracy. For me, everything feels synchronous and right, even down to the Fish People logo redesign in collaboration with Barnbrook, who I interviewed and got to know with my Bowie book research, and with whom I had some long chats last year about Kate and Hounds of Love specifically. It feels like stars are aligning for this thing.
“The challenge will be to approach something so familiar with a freshness”
What has it been like writing the book? Did you learn anything new about Hounds of Love and Kate Bush when researching it?
I’m in the research phase right now. I haven’t really started properly writing it – the manuscript is due in December. For the moment, I’m just making lots of notes and doing some deep thinking on the musicological side of things, which I think (hope) will be the book’s USP. That, and situating the work in the larger cultural picture in terms of influence and legacy. One thing I’m really digging into at the moment is Kate’s Before the Dawn concert residency from 2014, where all but one of the songs from Hounds of Love were performed for the first time. I think the theatrical staging of The Ninth Wave really expands and deepens the album content, going quite a long way to illustrate the artist’s own vision of it.
How did it differ to, say, writing about David Bowie for Blackstar Theory: The Last Works of David Bowie in terms of research and approach?
The difference for me is that the Bowie book was about the last phase of his career, so in a way it was about his entire career too. The whole story of the catalogue; all the connecting threads. Also, I wrote it not long after it happened – barely five years of Bowie’s death in 2016. With this book, it will be nice to zoom in on a single album, a specific time and place, a unique season for an artist who is still around, who could still put more work out yet (I dearly hope she does!). Another difference will be that Hounds has been discussed and written about quite a lot; the late Bowie work, not so much. The challenge will be to approach something so familiar with a freshness.
“With staggering sound design and next level songcraft, it’s an uncompromising artistic statement and a commercial success”
When did Kate Bush come into your life, and what was it about her music that struck you?
My fandom has gone through some phases. As a younger music student studying piano and trying to write my first songs, I was all about the earlier albums – trying to figure out the chords and sing along to songs like Moving, Symphony in Blue, Wow. Then later, when I got into record production and music technology as a creative and academic interest, I became alive to the staggering expression and sonic daring of The Dreaming and Hounds of Love. As I’ve gotten older, I appreciate Kate’s later work more and more, especially Aerial, which I think offers a profound, life-affirming message for everyone, especially for women at a specific stage of life. Being a woman in her forties, acutely aware of my fading visibility in the world, living in England in thrall to the magic of birdsong, the long-reaching light of summertime, I feel a connection to this work on an existential level!
As a musician and composer, how important is Kate Bush and albums like Hounds of Love to you personally?
Well. Beyond loving it and everything about it, Hounds is so important to me because it’s a complete vision, fully realised. I love how Kate becomes the complete auteur here, working expressively with sound, music, text, reference and image. With staggering sound design and next level songcraft, it’s an uncompromising artistic statement and a commercial success. Immediately accessible and exquisitely deep. Blazing a trail for and setting the template for successive generations of artists – especially female, Queer and trans self-producing songwriters like Tori Amos, Björk, ANOHNI, SOPHIE, Perfume Genius, FKA twigs, Jenny Hval, and so many more.
“I’ve unfortunately seen how female self-producing artists can have their authorship questioned and/or diminished…”
I don’t think enough people talk about Kate Bush’s talent as a producer. Her skill and intuition through Hounds of Love is evident. Do you think she is underrated as a producer?
Absolutely. I would love it if critics and musicologists would start talking about Kate as an influential record producer more. I would put her skills and vision during this era on par with Trevor Horn, or even Prince. Line it up next to Peter Gabriel’s So, and I think Hounds sounds every bit as good – if not better, more daring and stylistically coherent in places. And Peter had Daniel Lanois’ help with production on that one. I’ve unfortunately seen how female self-producing artists can have their authorship questioned and/or diminished - Bjork’s comments to Pitchfork in 2015 about this particular phenomenon come to mind – it makes me wonder had a man produced Hounds of Love, there would probably be a lot more open celebration of the album’s fantastic and influential production values.
My favourite song from Hounds of Love is The Big Sky, but I adore The Ninth Wave too. Do you have a standout track or aspect of the album that is a personal favourite?
This is a hard one. This week, I’m feeling the dopamine hitting hardest when Jig of Life comes on.
“Ann Powers’ proposed volume on ‘The Dreaming’ would have been an excellent addition to the series”
I am writing a feature about your upcoming book, but I also ask which other Kate Bush albums should be brought to the 33 1/3 series. Which would you say deserves to follow Hounds of Love?
Well as I said earlier, I think Aerial would be a great addition. There’s so much juicy stuff in there that I haven’t seen many people writing about yet. Ann Powers’ proposed volume on The Dreaming would have been an excellent addition to the series – I really enjoy hearing her talk about this era on Yasi Salek’s Bandsplain podcast, and you just know she would have done The Dreaming full justice. They’d probably never go for it, but I think Director’s Cut could be really interesting to write about, too.
For being a good sport, you can choose a track from Hounds of Love, and I will put it here. Which do you fancy?
Let’s have Hello Earth, since it references several songs, themes and musical motifs from the album…sewing the threads into a satisfyingly dramatic climax. You can’t fail to get swept up and away by it.