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she’s green
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to discover more about the Minneapolis band, she’s green, is to get to some interviews from last year. 2025 is when they released their latest E.P., Chrysalis. That came out in August. I want to highlight some interesting interviews with them. FADER spoke with a quintet about their “muscular-yet-soft anthems ahead of the release of their upcoming EP Chrysalis and U.S. tour”. The group consists of Zofia Smith (vocals), Liam Armstrong (guitar), Raines Lucas (guitar), Teddy Nordvold (bass), and Kevin Seebeck (drums):
“The band, who are based in Minneapolis, write about adolescent self-discovery, ecological disaster, and purging repressed memories with a mixture of vulnerability and power. Songs such as "Graze" feel muscular yet soft to the touch, while the soaring "Willow" is densely layered with Zofia Smith's graceful vocals pushed to the front. The music has drawn comparisons to, and remind of me of, bands like The Sundays and Alvvays.
Over the past few months She's Green have been on the road with fellow rising shoegazers Glixen plus the Canadian grunge duo Softcult. This fall they will be opening for Slow Pulp, as well as headlining their first-ever shows in the U.S.
Ahead of Chrysalis and their upcoming tour, get to know She's Green as they discuss a bonding trip to see Ween, the advice they swear by, the sad ant meme they love, and more.
Describe the first show you ever went to as fans.
As a band, the first show we went to together was Ween. The energy was immaculate, the air was temperate, and the sound… The sound was paradise. It was outside at a brewery in the summer, which was the perfect Ween setting. Lots of laughs and a surplus of beer, just a real party.
Give a short review of the last movie you watched.
We watched this black and white movie, The Juniper Tree. Björk is the little sister in a family of witches in Iceland. It’s a very strange but beautiful, poetic film. It’s the type of film to hold you in a dream-like trance during its quiet moments. It feels heavy but light-hearted at the same time.
What’s a motto that you think everyone should live by?
Live, Laugh, Love.
What’s the best advice you’ve ever received?
Just move through life with honest intentions, and it will all pan out
What’s the worst advice you’ve ever received?
You should have your life planned out at a young age. “Where will you be in five years?” and all that. The world moves too quickly.
What’s your favorite song to play live right now and why?
Our song "Figurines" has been really fun. It starts very lowkey, but grows into this crazy ending. The energy is always up for us at the end of that song. It takes us on an emotional journey; we hope it does the same for listeners.
Describe the best show you’ve played this year so far.
Playing Bowery Ballroom in New York with Softcult was incredible. It was a dream venue for us and hitting that milestone was surreal. The crowd was super engaged, too, which made us feel more comfortable on a big stage like that”.
Maybe there will be some repetition in terms of questions asked and answers given from interviews. However, I think we discover new things about she’s green from this interview from Still Listening. The band discuss the new E.P. in addition to nature and transformation. Though they are new to me, they already have a growing and dedicated fanbase:
“For those unfamiliar with your music, can you tell us who you are, where you’re from and about the music you make?
We’re she’s green from Minneapolis, Minnesota. We make textural music revolving around introspection and nature. We started making music with no expectation to be anything but as an emotional outlet for us and to have fun.
What was the inspiration behind the title of your latest EP, Chrysalis, and how does it reflect the music within?
A Chrysalis is a caterpillar before coming out of its cocoon as a butterfly and it seemed to be a perfect theme for the songs since we’ve been going through such a period of transformation as a band. We’ve gone through a lot these past few years from finishing up school, to relationships changing, and developing our sound as a band, playing a ton of shows on the road. Each song is reflecting on the journey in its own way.
Do you typically start with lyrics, melodies, or a particular concept in mind?
We have always started with a guitar part and worked from there. The melodies normally come next, singing gibberish and then the lyrics come from the images in my head, sometimes coming to fruition right away or over some time meditating on it. Our process has always been very natural. There hasn’t been a lot of thinking about concepts first in order to achieve this thing specifically, it’s just spewed out.
Can you share a memorable moment from the studio while recording Chrysalis?
We recorded Graze and Figurines with Henry Stoehr from Slow Pulp at his studio space in Chicago back in the summer of 2024. It was such a fun and rewarding experience, but had its share of silliness too. A lot of takes had to be abandoned because a hardcore band was practicing really loud just a couple rooms down the hall. While it may have been difficult to get clean takes, I can’t lie, that band sounded awesome. I wish I figured out what their name was.
Did anything unexpected happen that shaped the final product?
There’s always a lot of things that come up when you’re recording. Zofia was sick and had to record vocals for hours on end, Raines fractured his thumb a few days before tracking guitars, and we had to finish in a short time period between tours. All those things make recording hectic but also a unique experience.
Your music often incorporates themes of nature. How does your environment in Minneapolis shape your artistic vision and sound?
The Midwest has an almost feminine nature to it with bushy, soft hills and small trees. You drive about an hour away to farmlands with glowing cornfields at twilight and prancing deer. We have gorgeous blooming flowers on trees in the spring and summer, and bright colored leaves in fall. Winter is filled with days of fluffy snow covering everything you see, reminding you how pretty streetlights can be. The softness of our nature has impacted our love for lush textures in music and our love for cinematography as well”.
PHOTO CREDIT: Liam Armstrong
There are a couple of other interviews that I want to cover before finishing off. Chatting with the band as they were on their first tour ever, The Lunar Collective noted how she’s green already had this cult following. If you have not listened to she’s green and experienced their wonderful music then I would strongly urge you to check them out:
“LUNA: What is the shoegaze presence like in Minneapolis?
NORDVOLD: It’s definitely on the come-up right now. I feel like there’s a lot of newer bands that are toying with those kinds of sounds. Some really good friends of ours, like this band called 12th House Sun’s killing it right now…Shoutout Another Heaven, that’s a really, really cool shoegaze band that’s been in the game for a long time from Minneapolis.
LUNA: When you guys were first making music as she’s green, were you intentionally making stuff that was shoegaze, or were you just jamming and seeing what happens?
ARMSTRONG: We were making a lot of different stuff at the time. I mean, I was working on some indie stuff. I started making hip hop beats and stuff. I think I definitely wanted to try to make shoegaze for a few of the songs that we have out, or I was just drawing a lot from inspirations like that. I guess it’s just how it worked…It wasn’t like, we want to be a shoegaze band. It was just like, we want to put out music that reflects the kind of music that we really enjoy. [Zofia] wrote “Mandy”...
SMITH: I just had very raw, like, no pedal, very basic, straight guitars and vocals in a demo. I feel like that’s how a lot of the songs have started—very raw and baseline. When we come together, we just gravitate towards shoegaze because it adds that element of emotion and extra texture that really enhances those feelings. I would say the first couple songs that Liam and I made, we were definitely in a shoegaze phase…like what we were listening to when we were really diving into the ‘90s music at the time. But now, we’re really finding our own sound, which is great.
LUNA: How do you feel about the shoegaze label for the band?
LUCAS: We’ve all had that shoegaze phase, but I would speak for all of us when I say it’s probably like ten percent of what we’re actually listening to, even though we love the music. We’re never, ever making music for the shoegaze listener. We’re never like, “Shoegaze people will really dig this.” You know, if they do, that’s awesome, but that’s not the focus at all.
LUNA: One thing I like about the shoegaze community is that, when people are into a band, they’re really into the band. I feel like you guys have those sorts of fans already. After you released Wisteria and your other singles, what has the past year been like?
NORDVOLD: One of the coolest things is like… sometimes, name-searching is kind of fun on social platforms. I’m just like, I wonder if anyone is posting about us or something. I’ll find a Turkish channel on Youtube that posted a lyric video for “smile again” with the lyrics translated into Turkish. I’m like, yo, this is so, so cool. I’ll hit up Google Translate and I’ll try to write a thank you in whatever language it is… It’s been completely mind-blowing to see these songs that came together in your basement talked about by people in all the far-reaching corners of the world. It’s beautiful.
SMITH: Everyone has been so kind and supportive. I don’t know, it’s overwhelming. I’m excited. It’s unreal, for sure.
LUNA: How did you guys end up getting signed to Photo Finish Records?
LUCAS: The guy who works there, his name is Shane, he flew out to see us at a basement show in Minneapolis. I think that was very special and cool that he flew all the way from New York to do that. He got to see us in our element, too.
ARMSTRONG: He was really excited about us, and I think that’s what drew us in.
SMITH: He’s just so genuine. There’s no bad energy.
LUNA: Any other plans once you guys wrap up this tour?
ARMSTRONG: Definitely going to be working on new stuff.
NORDVOLD: We’re trying to record some stuff soon.
ARMSTRONG: We have a lot of stuff written. I think it’ll be a good time to just hop in the studio and record once we get back.
LUNA: Did you guys want to mention anything I didn’t bring up already?
NORDVOLD: I want to make it clear that we don’t hate shoegaze and we don’t hate the shoegazers [laughs]. We got a lot of love for them and we got a lot of love for the genre.
LUCAS: “Shoegaze band she’s green denounces shoegaze.”
LUNA: That’ll be the headline when this goes live.
NORDVOLD: They’re gonna tear us apart on Reddit.
SMITH: I love the genre. We just don’t wanna be in a box.
NORDVOLD: There’s definitely going to be music in the future which is very different than a lot of what’s come out so far, which I’m excited for”.
This is the final interview I want to bring in. Quite a lengthy one, there is a lot of interesting takeaways from the interview. I do think that this band are primed for a long career. The group have a run of dates in the U.S. coming up. I am really looking forward to seeing what they deliver this year. An amazing quintet that I think deserve a lot more love and focus here in the U.K. I hope that they come and play here at some point too:
“There’s so much natural imagery in your work, even your name is evocative of nature; what influence has it had on your music-making?
Liam: Growing up in the Midwest, we’re all deeply entwined with nature. I grew up in a town in Wisconsin where I would go down to this river a lot. When I make music, I want to translate those emotions I get from spending time outside.
Zofia: Liam’s cinematography in nature also adds to our sound. It adds a theatrical element.
Teddy: Like they were saying, we have these Midwestern backgrounds where we spend a lot of time in the woods, or camping, or hiking. There’s something impactful about being in really beautiful natural landscapes. It’s interesting to try translating that into a sonic medium rather than just a visual one.
Zofia: We have really gorgeous, blooming summers. Those memories that we make going camping and just doing outdoor activities are really special, especially since we have such isolating winters.
Teddy: Brutal winters…
Zofia: It’s still really gorgeous with the snow and stuff, but our summers are really special compared to other places.
Liam: The winter helps us write music that longs for the outside.
Teddy: It longs for greener pastures.
I see a lot about the negative side of the Midwest, but you all talk so beautifully about it. Is there anything you want to add to the Midwest discourse?
Teddy: The winters are a trial, but it makes the warmth and green foliage and humid air so much more appreciated.
Liam: We all really enjoy the winter, too. There’s something magical about being outside where everything’s blanketed. It’s so quiet.
Teddy: Yeah! We all live in the Twin Cities, Minneapolis and Saint Paul, so it’s a loud city environment. But whenever it’s snowing hard, everything’s so quiet and pretty.
Zofia: It’s also lighter, like when you go on a fresh snow walk. When the moon is out, everything is brighter because it’s reflecting on the snow. The sky has this really gorgeous color, too.
Teddy: It’s lustrous, almost.
Raines: I don’t know how I’d assess the passing of time if it wasn’t for the four seasons, so the change is really important, too. It makes my life feel more full than if I were in a consistent temperature, even though sometimes it sounds pretty nice.
Your first two singles were recorded at home; where was Wisteria made?
Liam: A lot of it was recorded at home, and the drums we recorded at our student radio.
Teddy: I knew the code to the college radio at The U, and…well, I don’t go there anymore, I can’t get in trouble.
Raines: Oh, you're gonna get expelled for sure.
Teddy: Hey, anyone who’s used that computer knows there are files of old students doing the same thing going back, like, 15 years. I’m far from the first. But it was a better drum recording setup than anything I had access to. Other than that, it was all home-brewed.
Liam: Secret’s out.
Were y’all sitting on the EP for a while?
Zofia: I feel like it just gracefully came together. We had those songs, and they all fit so well together.
Raines: I do remember the posts like, “EP soon!” And then nine months later, like “EP coming soon, I swear!”
Liam: We wanted it to be polished and stay true to what we’ve been dreaming after.
Zofia: We also wanted it to sound good. There are so many textures on there, and it was a lot to work with, so we struggled with that a bit. But once our friend Henry got in to mix everything, it was really good.
Teddy: Henry was the catalyst that we needed to focus the songs, make them cohesive, and have a sonic definition to them. So big thank-you to Henry Breen, love you.
What was the songwriting process like?
Zofia: All over the place. The boys usually come in with a riff or a rhythm, and we’ll throw bass and drums. I’ll start with melodies and write later. Just to serve the instrumental.
Liam: Sometimes we write as a group, too. Zofia had “Mandy” already fully written.
Zofia: “Purple” is also just Liam and me hanging out; It just happened. We wrote it in, like, an hour.
Teddy: Sometimes stuff emerges out of nowhere. There’s an unreleased track that we’re still honing that came from a jam. Just going back and forth between chords, like “there’s something there, but what?”
Raines: We have a new one we’ve been playing that came from Kevin warming up with some song he liked. I just started playing chords I’d never played before, and so did he. 30 minutes later, we had a song. Sometimes it comes like that, but “Graze,” the single that just came out, was a long time coming.
Big question: What are you making music for?
Liam: I want to make something that makes people want to continue enjoying their life. Make the world better.
Raines: This guy’s on a big mission. I didn’t know we were doing that, pressure’s on.
Teddy: A noble cause.
Zofia: I went into it as a self-exploration thing, with zero expectations. Now it’s turned into something that connects us to other people. Like people can relate and find it meaningful. Meeting people on tour has made that connection more of what I’m doing it for now.
Kevin: I’ve always enjoyed playing and being around music. One thing led to another, and now I’m in she’s green. I love to contribute. And make stuff that makes people…wanna continue enjoying their lives.
Raines: We don’t wanna put too much pressure on it either. You could just make music because you like making music.
Teddy: Exactly. I actually had a cool conversation with someone in Dallas last night. We were talking about how they recently picked up bass guitar. I hope I communicated it effectively, but the most rewarding aspect of all of this has been going into it with the intent of having fun. That’s why I started jamming with them in the first place. It’s such a good time, and being on the road has been the most amazing, rewarding experience. Just having fun. And gaining the satisfaction from the process of creation.
Liam: It’s a win-win situation when you get to do something that’s really cool and people are affected by it.
Teddy: One quick addendum I’ll make to my answer: when I listen to music that really clicks with me or I’m at a live show that I’m really immersed in, there’s a feeling. This process is just chasing that metaphorical dragon. I want to find that indescribable feeling. That inner connection with the music. I’ve had that feeling at least once at every show so far.
Zofia: I completely agree.
Liam: Materialized essence of the dream world.
Raines: How I interpret what Teddy is saying is that our main criteria for songwriting is that it has to make us feel something. If it doesn’t, we have to change something. I don’t think we’ll ever release a song that didn’t make us feel anything strong”.
Chrysalis came out last August, so many people might expect a new E.P. or music soon. However, you can’t rush artists and they have been pretty busy the last year or so. Building their name and gaining traction, I feel we will be talking about she’s green for years to come. This is a very special band that you…
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